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morsi. the third thing we heard was a desire to have a shared responsibility as the egyptian military announced to use a committee structure that would have the credibility of the egyptian people. that was the reference that was made in drafting some kind of new governing constitutional structure on that road to elections. as we look at this reaction here on the screen, ambassador, what do you make of those general outlines that we heard? >> the supreme forces of egypt have essentially engaged in a coup d' ttat. will his supporters take to the streets to violently oppose this coup and bring more bloodshed to egypt? number three, will the military be able to convince enough of the political establishment of egypt to participate in a way that would lead this country out of the chaos it's been in. remember, since president morsi took power a year ago and since president mubarak was overthrown by the military two years ago in a similar coup, egypt has lurched from one crisis to another. >> all r
morsi. the third thing we heard was a desire to have a shared responsibility as the egyptian military announced to use a committee structure that would have the credibility of the egyptian people. that was the reference that was made in drafting some kind of new governing constitutional structure on that road to elections. as we look at this reaction here on the screen, ambassador, what do you make of those general outlines that we heard? >> the supreme forces of egypt have essentially...
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morsi is still calling it a coup. how should the white house respond and how could you expect them to respond? >> i very much like what my friend michael han lon just said that, this is a popular impeachment. i think it captures exactly what is taking place here. the white house has tried to convince mr. morsi over the last few days lieu any number of calls from the secretary of state, the president, secretary of defense to his counterpart general assisi the head of the extreme forces that essentially led this military effort against the morsi regime to try to develop some sort of consensus. as a man just reported from cairo, president morsi was absolutely defiant in a speech that was as defiant as it could get against this outporing of anger and anmossity against his regime. the administration, the obama administration has had an extraordinarily difficult time navigating the changes that have taken place within egyptian society. those people have taken to the streets blame washington more or less for sadding up to pr
morsi is still calling it a coup. how should the white house respond and how could you expect them to respond? >> i very much like what my friend michael han lon just said that, this is a popular impeachment. i think it captures exactly what is taking place here. the white house has tried to convince mr. morsi over the last few days lieu any number of calls from the secretary of state, the president, secretary of defense to his counterpart general assisi the head of the extreme forces...
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there have been demonstrations here about for morsi and against morsi. how would you weigh the numbers on both sides? >> most people are -- our reporters and we have plenty of them in egypt, are saying that the anti-morsi demonstrations are far bigger than the pro-morsi demonstrations. it is true the muslim brotherhood has been very organized, but last year the mor morsi -- alienated those who voted for morsi one year ago. that tells you something about the incredible failure of the muslim brotherhood in delivering on the promises to the people. so clearly the seats are not owned by the pro-morsi groups, they're owned by the anti--morsi coalition. >> back to the concessions that you described earlier and what you are saying are leaks that you're reporting on about the constitution, which the muslim brotherhood would not want to change based on at least what we know and what you said so far. but let's focus in on what the protesters want. we're talking about electricity, right? we're talking about gas lines. that's one basic economic need that they would
there have been demonstrations here about for morsi and against morsi. how would you weigh the numbers on both sides? >> most people are -- our reporters and we have plenty of them in egypt, are saying that the anti-morsi demonstrations are far bigger than the pro-morsi demonstrations. it is true the muslim brotherhood has been very organized, but last year the mor morsi -- alienated those who voted for morsi one year ago. that tells you something about the incredible failure of the...
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was the muslim brotherhood government of morsi, mohammed morsi, where was it taking the country? was it taking a gradually and smoothly, inevitably towards a real islamist state like you have in iran? >> really the brotherhood didn't make all that many on the ground concrete moves that took the country toward sharia. there were elements that could've opened that door, but they didn't really do all that much in that regard. their primary crime in the eyes of the protesters and really where they lost the country was just in not being inclusive. they played exclusively to their base. they shoved this constitution down the throats of people and said, hey, we have the votes, this is it, you're sore losers. they ignored the idea of consensus building. and arguably, with morsi, mohammed morsi this fragile divisive nation that was still trying to figure out what kind of country it needed to be, his number one priority arguably should have been consensus building. but instead of going to the center, they went to the right. they allied and used those numbers to jam it down the country's th
was the muslim brotherhood government of morsi, mohammed morsi, where was it taking the country? was it taking a gradually and smoothly, inevitably towards a real islamist state like you have in iran? >> really the brotherhood didn't make all that many on the ground concrete moves that took the country toward sharia. there were elements that could've opened that door, but they didn't really do all that much in that regard. their primary crime in the eyes of the protesters and really where...
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was the muslim brotherhood government of morsi, mohamed morsi, where was it taking the country? was it taking it gradually and smoothly, inevitably towards shariah, towards a real islamist state like you have in iran? >> really, the brotherhood didn't make all that many on the ground concrete moves that took the country towards shariah. there was elements in the constitution that were very disturbing that could have opened that door. but they didn't really do all that much in that regard. their primary crime in the eyes of the protesters and really where they lost the country, was just in not being inclusive. they played exclusively to their base. they shoved this constitution down the throats of people and just said hey, we have the votes, this is it, you're just sore losers. they ignored the idea of consensus building. arguably, with president -- with morsi, mohamed morsi, through this fragile divisive nation that was still trying to figure out what kind of country it needed to be, his number one priority arguably should have been consensus building. instead of going to the ce
was the muslim brotherhood government of morsi, mohamed morsi, where was it taking the country? was it taking it gradually and smoothly, inevitably towards shariah, towards a real islamist state like you have in iran? >> really, the brotherhood didn't make all that many on the ground concrete moves that took the country towards shariah. there was elements in the constitution that were very disturbing that could have opened that door. but they didn't really do all that much in that regard....
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what type of security detail does morsi have? who would be in charge of that that the independent army would be confronting to take him out of power? >> well, the state security bureaucracy in egypt is a very complex one. on the one hand you have the military, armed forces. you have the general intelligence director. that's the equivalent of the foreign military agency. that's very powerful in egypt. you have the internal republican guard. that is the equivalent of the secret service. it's tasked with protecting egypt's president. they respond to the military. as we understand it, there has been a lot of heightened security outside of the guard headquarters here. i drove by the republican guard headquarters and there were large protests there because people believe that is where president muhammad morsi is currently being held. i don't say being held against his will but that's at least where he's operating out of for the time being. he's there under protection of the republican guard. what orders they may have given to limit the
what type of security detail does morsi have? who would be in charge of that that the independent army would be confronting to take him out of power? >> well, the state security bureaucracy in egypt is a very complex one. on the one hand you have the military, armed forces. you have the general intelligence director. that's the equivalent of the foreign military agency. that's very powerful in egypt. you have the internal republican guard. that is the equivalent of the secret service....
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morsi up to this point to behave in a democratic fashion. clearly he needs to be putting pressure on mr. morsi but also needs to be telling the egyptian military that receives $1.3 million of american largesse every year that we will not tolerate what we saw before with regard to autocratic politics and military's involvement in domestic affairs. there needs to be some process that produces civilian democratic pluralist politics where all egyptians are equal, regardless of gender, religion and so on. >> what you just said right there, your two-pronged answer is the contradiction i always here. point one, the u.s. has to recognize it has less influence. point two, the u.s. needs to exert pressure to make sure this outcome happens. that seems like what we face here as we watch the countdown toward the ultimatum tomorrow morning. egyptian activist here with me at the table. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now. >>> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. there's a lot going on in th
morsi up to this point to behave in a democratic fashion. clearly he needs to be putting pressure on mr. morsi but also needs to be telling the egyptian military that receives $1.3 million of american largesse every year that we will not tolerate what we saw before with regard to autocratic politics and military's involvement in domestic affairs. there needs to be some process that produces civilian democratic pluralist politics where all egyptians are equal, regardless of gender, religion and...
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how will morsi supporter reez act? how will the people who didn't win out tonight and who now feel disenfranchised? will they become an insurgency. i worry about what happened in algeria in 1992. there was an election. the islamists won and the military canceled the election and then you had a civil war with more than 100,000 people dead. it doesn't seem like they're heading in that direction but you could have an insurgency in this country that goes back underground that could cause a lot of problems for this country. >> clearly you make an excellent point. isn't it going to be important now the protection of the muslim brotherhood and their supporters and of mohamed morsi because should violence come to them, the nightmare scenario you just talked about could indeed take place? >> it wouldn't just be about people here attacking the muslim brotherhood. they feel this has been an affront not to just president morsi but that this is an international conspiracy against islam and against political islam. and therefore, yo
how will morsi supporter reez act? how will the people who didn't win out tonight and who now feel disenfranchised? will they become an insurgency. i worry about what happened in algeria in 1992. there was an election. the islamists won and the military canceled the election and then you had a civil war with more than 100,000 people dead. it doesn't seem like they're heading in that direction but you could have an insurgency in this country that goes back underground that could cause a lot of...
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morsi has been elected. how does a white house balance siding with the protesters versus siding with the military versus siding with a duly elected president. >> i worked for president bush when hamas won large numbers of elections, and president bush was so committed to the freedom agenda and really, i think, understood that this is what democratic elections can result in. i think the challenge here is the white house seems to be juggling all these hot spots in a way that doesn't give much confidence not only in the region but here at home. americans are wondering what's going on? is >> be more specific. in this case, in the case of egt,he president is saying it's up to the egyptian people. should he be calling for the removal of morsi? >> i think the president has to be consistent. i think what he said with regard to step aside, it was because the will of the people needs to let that be the outcome. >> but mubarak hadn't been elected? >> the white house has to balance diplomacy and the mood on the street,
morsi has been elected. how does a white house balance siding with the protesters versus siding with the military versus siding with a duly elected president. >> i worked for president bush when hamas won large numbers of elections, and president bush was so committed to the freedom agenda and really, i think, understood that this is what democratic elections can result in. i think the challenge here is the white house seems to be juggling all these hot spots in a way that doesn't give...
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there's been a lot of disappointment in morsi's government. economic mismanagement, a failure to be inclusive, social decay that's caused significant unrest over the past year. there's been significant international concern about that. nobody in the international community has been calling for morsi's ouster, but the egyptian people are clearly fed up. it's too early to tell how this will play out. certainly the international community does not like to see instability, gets nervous about it, was accustomed to decades of a stable egypt, and we're going to be with this period of instability for some time. i think as ayman pointed out, having the diverse set of leaders come out in a statement is essential, but it also is going to require working with folks who run the brotherhood and who have had the leadership. just over the corner, over the horizon, there's syria. there's a civil war going on there. it is dramatic, and it has islamist groups involved. in the '90s there was also an election in algeria of a political party and there was civil war
there's been a lot of disappointment in morsi's government. economic mismanagement, a failure to be inclusive, social decay that's caused significant unrest over the past year. there's been significant international concern about that. nobody in the international community has been calling for morsi's ouster, but the egyptian people are clearly fed up. it's too early to tell how this will play out. certainly the international community does not like to see instability, gets nervous about it,...
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morsi had been informed he is no longer president of egypt. minutes later, it was announced the military was suspending the constitution, calling for early presidential elections and installing chief justice monsoor as the interim president. this was the scene in tahrir square following the announcement. president morsi and his supporters remained defy an the throughout the day, in a statement released to a presidential spokesperson. morsi who is now under house arrest, cat gore rickly rejected what he called a military coup. ayman mohyeldin is live in cairo with the latest. ayman about you reported on the house arrest that morsi has been placed under. what can you tell us about that? >> what we do know is only coming out from members of the muslim brotherhood. no confirmation yet from the egyptian military or egyptian police. they have confirmed other arrest that is have been made, but for the time being so far, it is only the spokesperson for the muslim brotherhood, and the senior adviser to the freedom and justice party who says that former
morsi had been informed he is no longer president of egypt. minutes later, it was announced the military was suspending the constitution, calling for early presidential elections and installing chief justice monsoor as the interim president. this was the scene in tahrir square following the announcement. president morsi and his supporters remained defy an the throughout the day, in a statement released to a presidential spokesperson. morsi who is now under house arrest, cat gore rickly rejected...
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morsi government flooded the -- in gaza. morsi's government took a strong position against iran's meddling in the region and against the syrian regime. there is a good relationship, working relationship, if you will, between the morsi government and the obama administration. >> it always has been -- it always has been in the u.s.' best interest to keep egypt as our ally. real quickly, though, does the military lose any credibility for the opponents of a morsi government if they don't do something, as they promised they two, given the 48-hour time clock and now here we are at the tipping point. do they risk their own credibility with the egyptian people? >> absolutely. everybody expects military to move now, especially opposition. the military in one year regained its reputation, as above the fray, if you will, as the only institution, national institution above the fray. and a year ago, they were suffering from bad reputation and bad ground. but morsi alienated the egyptians and drove them to seek help from the military. >>
morsi government flooded the -- in gaza. morsi's government took a strong position against iran's meddling in the region and against the syrian regime. there is a good relationship, working relationship, if you will, between the morsi government and the obama administration. >> it always has been -- it always has been in the u.s.' best interest to keep egypt as our ally. real quickly, though, does the military lose any credibility for the opponents of a morsi government if they don't do...
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and what about morsi and his supporters? they're calling this a naked coup and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the u.s. embassy, which is just in the back of this square has ordered the departure of all non-emergency personnel and their families and is even advising american citizens in egypt to leave. richard engle, nbc news, cairo. >>> joining me now with the latest is nbc's yousef ga mall al dean in cairo and tracie potts in washington this morning. first to you, yousef. this is a fluid situation. now that the military has taken over, what comes next? >> well, veronica the celebrations continue to this day. just a formational planes flying over the skyline of the capital cairo, what looked like army planes, difficult to confirm. the army making it clear it tried to talk to the president or now former president mohamed morsi about the power-sharing deal, that didn't work through so it reached out to the opposition, reached out to religious leaders to come up with this transitional period, e
and what about morsi and his supporters? they're calling this a naked coup and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the u.s. embassy, which is just in the back of this square has ordered the departure of all non-emergency personnel and their families and is even advising american citizens in egypt to leave. richard engle, nbc news, cairo. >>> joining me now with the latest is nbc's yousef ga mall al dean in cairo and tracie potts in washington this morning....
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a number of -- the president spoke to former president morsi a few days ago. as things evolved over the last several days it was the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general dempsey having conversations with his counterpart in egypt as well as secretary of defense chuck hagel who spoke more than once with his counterpart in egypt as well. the relationships between the u.s. have been much closer to the military leadership in egypt than to the civilian government for years. >> peter alexander reporting at the white house. thank you very much. the crowds returned to tahrir square following a celebration to mark the removal of president morsi. we have the latest from cairo on that. the people have been heard. the reaction has been sent in and of itself. there is a pivot point between knowing what they got rid of and knowing what they get next. >> absolutely. that will be an important question in the coming hours. one of the things people are looking at now and especially since the ouster of president morsi, how the government is reacting. we are talking most
a number of -- the president spoke to former president morsi a few days ago. as things evolved over the last several days it was the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general dempsey having conversations with his counterpart in egypt as well as secretary of defense chuck hagel who spoke more than once with his counterpart in egypt as well. the relationships between the u.s. have been much closer to the military leadership in egypt than to the civilian government for years. >> peter...
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and what about morsi and their supporters? they're calling this a naked coup, and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the army has deployed armored vehicles to contain them, but they are armed. and some could start an insurgency. back in tahrir square, back with the winners, what about democracy? is a military intervention really what they wanted? no, but they say it was the only choice to fix the mistake they don't want to repeat. but lawrence, while the scene here appears very boisterous, celebratory and positive, there are deep concerns about what will happen next. in fact, the u.s. embassy which was located at the back of tahrir square, has ordered the evacuation of all nonemergency personnel and their families and telling u.s. citizens living in egypt to leave. lawrence? >> >> richard engel, thank you. joining me now is bams dor dennis ross, former envoy to the middle east to former president clinton and assistant to president obama. he is now a cons lor for the washington institute for nears
and what about morsi and their supporters? they're calling this a naked coup, and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the army has deployed armored vehicles to contain them, but they are armed. and some could start an insurgency. back in tahrir square, back with the winners, what about democracy? is a military intervention really what they wanted? no, but they say it was the only choice to fix the mistake they don't want to repeat. but lawrence, while the scene here...
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the military is in charge, not president morsi? >> that's a word that's being used by supporters of the president there describing the military infringement in politics as a military coupe. those who are welcoming the news are described as the military implementing the people's will. they are not using the word coupe but certainly when you look at the maneuvers of the military, the fact that it is the one that is issuing the statement, it is the one that is trying to supersede the divisions of the politics and get parties together, the military has definitely taken the upper hand and is to some extent in control of the ma military. >>> i want to go to p.j. crowley as a former state department official. how dicey is this for the obama administration? how do you deal with this? this is a change in government to an elected government. the u.s. had affirmed the legitimacy of the election. now you have a situation where the elected president of the country is incommunicado. how will the administration be dealing with at this point? >> i
the military is in charge, not president morsi? >> that's a word that's being used by supporters of the president there describing the military infringement in politics as a military coupe. those who are welcoming the news are described as the military implementing the people's will. they are not using the word coupe but certainly when you look at the maneuvers of the military, the fact that it is the one that is issuing the statement, it is the one that is trying to supersede the...
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>> morsi doesn't have many options right now. the danger is that the muslim brotherhood has waited for 80 years, it's emerged from a bad movement, it believes its moment has arrived and it charges there are conspirators behind this effort, that it's the old regime trying to make a comeback and to a certain extent there are still those from the old regime who are among the opposition, who do want to make a comeback. and so, you know, this may not be solved in 48 hours. whether the military will move in and actually escort him out, that's not clear that that's what the military is talking about. it's really issued a political ultimatum, not one that it looks like it will automatically engage in a coup. i think it's tough on that 48 hours. we're now down to 24 hours, in fact. >> when the 24 hours have lapsed, steve, on the ground, these people are looking at helicopters, they're still going to be living in a country of a median age of about 19.5 years with horrific unemployment, no prospects for jobs. as you said, an economy that is
>> morsi doesn't have many options right now. the danger is that the muslim brotherhood has waited for 80 years, it's emerged from a bad movement, it believes its moment has arrived and it charges there are conspirators behind this effort, that it's the old regime trying to make a comeback and to a certain extent there are still those from the old regime who are among the opposition, who do want to make a comeback. and so, you know, this may not be solved in 48 hours. whether the military...
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and opponents of president morsi. that's been the deadliest type of violence we've seen at places like you mentioned cairo university and elsewhere. there's no doubt when you have hundreds of thousands of people in the square, it's an incident of -- it's a place of tremendous chaos so there's definitely cases of sexual harassment as we've seen over the past several days, crime, but nothing on the scale that led to the type of confrontations that led to the killing of people. >> okay. nbc's ayman mohyeldin on duty after a short break to catch a few hours sleep. >>> joel ruben, director of policy and government affairs, an expert on foreign policy and national security and joins me now. with a thank you and happy fourth to you. >> happy fourth, alex. >> what has happened in this last year? he was a democratically elected president, mohamed morsi. what happened then to now? >> what happened from then to now is that we've seen egyptian society really respond negatively to the leadership of mohamed morsi. this is an intern
and opponents of president morsi. that's been the deadliest type of violence we've seen at places like you mentioned cairo university and elsewhere. there's no doubt when you have hundreds of thousands of people in the square, it's an incident of -- it's a place of tremendous chaos so there's definitely cases of sexual harassment as we've seen over the past several days, crime, but nothing on the scale that led to the type of confrontations that led to the killing of people. >> okay....
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and what about morsi and their supporters? they're calling this a naked coup, and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the army has deployed armored vehicles to contain them, but they are armed. and some could start an insurgency. what about democracy? is a military intervention really what they wanted? no, but they say it was the only choice to fix the mistake they don't want to repeat. but lawrence, while the scene here appears very much a celebration and positive, there are deep concerns in the country about what will happen next. in fact, the u.s. embassy which is located just to the back of tahrir square has ordered the evacuation of all non-emergency personnel and their families and is even telling u.s. citizens living in egypt to leave. lawrence? >> richard engel, thank you. joining me now is embassy dennis ross, a former envoy to the middle east for former president clinton and assistant to president obama. he is now a counsel for the washington institute for near east policy. embassy ross,
and what about morsi and their supporters? they're calling this a naked coup, and a front to islam, a plot by israel and america. they're furious. the army has deployed armored vehicles to contain them, but they are armed. and some could start an insurgency. what about democracy? is a military intervention really what they wanted? no, but they say it was the only choice to fix the mistake they don't want to repeat. but lawrence, while the scene here appears very much a celebration and positive,...
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we've seen the reaction to what the news was of morsi's ouster. also the energy expended to get that ouster. we are looking at shots now of tahrir square but explain the mood of people on the ground now and i guess the anticipation that looms for what comes next. >> reporter: well, the mood is certainly one depending on who you are asking, but certainly one of optimism, one of euphoria, one of joy for those that were taking to the streets demanding the ouster of president morsi. that's also been reflected economically. the egyptian stock market today is breaking all kinds of records, an indication that perhaps economic confidence from investors was that this was a good investment for egypt's future. but no doubt about, those that supported president morsi, are saying this is a very dangerous assault on democracy, legitimacy and constitutionality. they, too, have begun to organize themselves in different rallies and protests across the country. later today they are holding a large-scale demonstration demanding that the president be reinstated. goin
we've seen the reaction to what the news was of morsi's ouster. also the energy expended to get that ouster. we are looking at shots now of tahrir square but explain the mood of people on the ground now and i guess the anticipation that looms for what comes next. >> reporter: well, the mood is certainly one depending on who you are asking, but certainly one of optimism, one of euphoria, one of joy for those that were taking to the streets demanding the ouster of president morsi. that's...
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on the other side, those that support president morsi, they believe the u.s. is fueling this. they've toppled the first islamic president of the country. >> nbc's reporter in cairo. >>> the u.s. is slowing down a key component of the obama care. the obama administration offering a one-year delay to employers who are supposed to start offering health insurance to its workers. here the law required businesses with more than 50 workers to require coverage or face a $2,000 fine. it's obviously one of the most controversial aspects of the law. many say it's too burdensome and complicated to comply. what led to the surprise decision? let's go to mark halpern. for me, mark, is this a symbol of an existential problem with obama care or is this so big it's difficult to implement? >> it's a substantive issue. delay is a good thing. let the businesses adjust. the politics are huge. people are looking at the fact that it extends beyond the mid term. they're trying to avoid the political fallout but there's also the question, this is what opponents are saying. if this thing is a good idea,
on the other side, those that support president morsi, they believe the u.s. is fueling this. they've toppled the first islamic president of the country. >> nbc's reporter in cairo. >>> the u.s. is slowing down a key component of the obama care. the obama administration offering a one-year delay to employers who are supposed to start offering health insurance to its workers. here the law required businesses with more than 50 workers to require coverage or face a $2,000 fine. it's...
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essentially, the people want president morsi to relinquish power. that's why they went to the streets yesterday by the millions. it caught many people here by surprise, including president morsi himself. today we understand that president morsi is possibly meeting with the military in the coming hours to try to find a way out. for the time being though, the major opposition blocs all have celebrated the decision by the military. they are welcoming the military's call that within 48 hours this political stalemate must come to an end. many people say that this is the military effectively intervening. now the military says that it will, after 48 hours, issue a road map going forward if there is no end to this crisis. they have not spelled out what that road map will look like, but many people say that no matter how it plays out, it is the end of the muslim brotherhood's rule, or at least that of president mohamed morsi's in the short term. others are suggesting that perhaps president morsi can go back to the people and try to get a national referendum
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they are protesting wmohamed morsi. hundreds of thousands protesting in cairo. so far, the protest, today at least, by and large, have been peaceful. >>> the brain trust is back np angela wroorye. good to see all of you. this is a portion of the program where we ask you to submit headlines. this week of course america celebrating independence and freedom from landmark decisions on same-sex marriage to the ongoing debate to secreter iek surveillance. mike, since you are the new-comer we come to you, sir, what is it? >> in light of the fact that americans weren't that upset about spying, my headline is america wakes up, immediately goes back to sleep. >> you really think that there's widespread apathy and indifference with the spying and snowden stuff? >> i think the federal government and national security apparatus have done an amazing job selling what the nsa does, fbi, cia does, and i think people believe the federal government has struck the right balance between liberty and security. even though we have no idea what they are actually doing in total. so we re
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someone has sent nearly 1 million slices of pizza to american troops abroad. >>> morsi or no morsi as the biggest country in the region and as the second largest recipient of u.s. foreign aid, egypt remaining a strategic concern for the united states. the white house has a lot at stake when it comes to what's next for egypt. joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent peter za alexander. egyptians tagging the united states with being on the wrong side of history again. they did that after hosni mubarak. how has the white house responded to this latest round of criticism? >> reporter: the white house has been largely muted in its entire response to this. we finally did hear from them late yesterday as events continued to evolve. one of the criticisms that we've heard on the ground from protesters in egypt, richard, has been that the u.s., among other things, overlooked the crackdown by the morsi government if that government would continue the peace treaty with israel in that country which had had been a great frustration for a lot of people there. the white house made it very c
someone has sent nearly 1 million slices of pizza to american troops abroad. >>> morsi or no morsi as the biggest country in the region and as the second largest recipient of u.s. foreign aid, egypt remaining a strategic concern for the united states. the white house has a lot at stake when it comes to what's next for egypt. joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent peter za alexander. egyptians tagging the united states with being on the wrong side of history again. they did...
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one, either president morsi leaves or he calls for early elections. the united states has increasingly stood by president morsi over the past year. it's not yet clear what position they will take as this ultimatum winds down. what's important for people in the u.s. to understand is that egypt is currently divided. the overwhelming majority of the people over the past several days have been increasingly calling for president morsi to step down. they say that over the past year he has mismanaged the country and attempted to take more an more power for him an his islamist supporters. they feel that the country has not made a genuine transition to democracy. this is what they have been calling for for the past two careers. not only under the leadership of president morsi but also under the leadership of the military which could very well be back in power in the next 24 hours. so it is extremely concerning for some to see that the military has once again re-asserted itself into the politics of egypt. that certainly is going to be something of great concern
one, either president morsi leaves or he calls for early elections. the united states has increasingly stood by president morsi over the past year. it's not yet clear what position they will take as this ultimatum winds down. what's important for people in the u.s. to understand is that egypt is currently divided. the overwhelming majority of the people over the past several days have been increasingly calling for president morsi to step down. they say that over the past year he has mismanaged...
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they are trying to show that president morsi is the elected leader. he still has legitimacy and shont wi shouldn't be forced out of power. they have given him 26 hours to get out of the situation. otherwise they are going to chart a new road map. what that road map looks like and how it will play out, nobody knows. will it keep president morsi in power or will it strip him from powers and keep him as a symbolic president. the president is losing some confidence pr his own administration. we have had some senior members of his cabinet resign. many are standing in solidarity with the protesters. it's not clear whether the president will accept those resignations as he tries to fight for his job. >> very quickly, we were showing a split screen with a normal scene behind you and so many protesters angry. what's the scene today? >> reporter: it's a different scene from the people than those supporting the president. some are jubilant and happy that the military is taking the right steps. those supporting president morsi who plan to go to the streets, they
they are trying to show that president morsi is the elected leader. he still has legitimacy and shont wi shouldn't be forced out of power. they have given him 26 hours to get out of the situation. otherwise they are going to chart a new road map. what that road map looks like and how it will play out, nobody knows. will it keep president morsi in power or will it strip him from powers and keep him as a symbolic president. the president is losing some confidence pr his own administration. we...
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president morsi has been holding emergency meetings with other officials. yet not clear is how this is all going to play out. there's still 30 hours left on that ultimatum. >> live in cairo, thank you. >>> some other stories making news this morning, the texas state capital was packed with demonstrators on both sides of the controversial abortion bill. state senator wendy davis who rose to the national spotlight last week during an 11-hour filibuster thanked the crowd for their enthusiasm and support. >>> texas season the only state in a fight over abortion. ohio governor signed a bill into law that requires ultrasounds for anyone seeking an abortion. pro-life groups are calling the bill historic while democrats say the move is controversial and unpopular. >>> former congresswoman gabrielle giffords fired a gun for the first time since she was shot in the head more than two years ago. she and her husband both long-time gun owners are currently campaigning for expanded background checks. >>> the man suspected in a brutal new jersey home invasion is set to be
president morsi has been holding emergency meetings with other officials. yet not clear is how this is all going to play out. there's still 30 hours left on that ultimatum. >> live in cairo, thank you. >>> some other stories making news this morning, the texas state capital was packed with demonstrators on both sides of the controversial abortion bill. state senator wendy davis who rose to the national spotlight last week during an 11-hour filibuster thanked the crowd for their...
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that's one of the things morsi failed to deliver in his first year in office. you can see the people behind me had very little tolerance for anything more than a year, they've been patient they gave him a year, they feel his time was running out on bringing genuine democratic reforms to this country. that's why they're back into the street. i think the underlying message that you learn from speaking to people in tahrir is that from now on, future egyptian leaders, whether it be the military, the islamists, whether it be a secular liberal, they will have to pay more attention to the streets to tahrir square, and they simply cannot ignore it, you ignore it at your own peril is the lesson that comes out of the revolutionary youth movements that we've been speaking to. they have toppled two of the most powerful institutions in egyptian history. the islamists and the military. >> ayman mohyeldin in cairo after 3:00 in the morning local time. i would say get some sleep, but given where you are, i know that's impossible. please do stay safe ayman. >> thank you. >>> ju
that's one of the things morsi failed to deliver in his first year in office. you can see the people behind me had very little tolerance for anything more than a year, they've been patient they gave him a year, they feel his time was running out on bringing genuine democratic reforms to this country. that's why they're back into the street. i think the underlying message that you learn from speaking to people in tahrir is that from now on, future egyptian leaders, whether it be the military,...
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in an emotional speech tuesday, morsi pledged to stay in office amid persistent protests. at least 23 were killed tuesday in cairo. nbc's yusef gamal aldin joins us with just hours left before that ultimatum expires, what do you expect will happen next? >> good morning, mara. it's been a very long day here in cairo and across the country. you mentioned the president's speech which is defiant to meet the deadline. you mentioned the deadline. the violence is close to cairo university. not far from our vantage point here. we're seeing more and more calls for the president to step down to engage with the opposition. also, we're seeing the rhetoric, mara, sharpen from both sides, from the incumbent president and his speech at midnight yesterday and the response on the official facebook page by the army that says it will sacrifice its blood from egypt to protect it from radicals. let's see how this all evolves but there's a lot at stake here. >>> now we go to washington. the white house is putting the brakes on president obama's health care law. nbc tracie potts is live in washi
in an emotional speech tuesday, morsi pledged to stay in office amid persistent protests. at least 23 were killed tuesday in cairo. nbc's yusef gamal aldin joins us with just hours left before that ultimatum expires, what do you expect will happen next? >> good morning, mara. it's been a very long day here in cairo and across the country. you mentioned the president's speech which is defiant to meet the deadline. you mentioned the deadline. the violence is close to cairo university. not...
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president muhammad morsi. he is an individual that was considered by most a consensus individual. now given the fact that the military has defended the constitution, they didn't have to appoint him as the individual. certainly to get the coalition of people that were next to the general who made the announcement, you had the people from the church, many other notable figures, it seemed that he was the individual that a lot of people could get behind for this transitional period. >> you know, as you said, ayman, very clearly this is effectively a civilian government. now they have appointed this interim president of egypt. but does he gain confidence from egyptians or is he seen widely as a puppet here? >> well, that's going to be the test in terms of how he asserts himself, the kinds of decisions he makes in the short term. there's no doubt about it that this is a military appointed individual. that doesn't mean the military will call the shots. the military looms large over egyptian politics and will have the
president muhammad morsi. he is an individual that was considered by most a consensus individual. now given the fact that the military has defended the constitution, they didn't have to appoint him as the individual. certainly to get the coalition of people that were next to the general who made the announcement, you had the people from the church, many other notable figures, it seemed that he was the individual that a lot of people could get behind for this transitional period. >> you...
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but morsi insists he will remain in power. >> be safe. we'll talk to you later in the morning. >>> even though edward snowden is living in limbo in the moscow airport, he is making major waves. "der spiegel" reports that the nsa bugged european union offices, accessed e.u. computer networks. and the top delegation. the top officials demanded an explanation from washington. snowden is on asylum from ecuador. but his chances of going there may be smaller. over the weekend, that country's president revealed that vice president biden phoned him, politely asking he reject snowden's request. it is moscow that determines if snowden can leave, as russian officials distance himself from his fate. his passport for the u.s. has been revoked. he has been backed by wikileaks. and julian assange call his pursuit a disgrace. >> he is a hero. he told the people of the world and the united states that there is mass, unlawful, interception of their communications, far beyond anything that happened under nixon. obama can't turn around like nixon and say, it
but morsi insists he will remain in power. >> be safe. we'll talk to you later in the morning. >>> even though edward snowden is living in limbo in the moscow airport, he is making major waves. "der spiegel" reports that the nsa bugged european union offices, accessed e.u. computer networks. and the top delegation. the top officials demanded an explanation from washington. snowden is on asylum from ecuador. but his chances of going there may be smaller. over the...
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they say the military should intervene and oust president morsi. the president says that would amount it a coup on the democratic leader of the country. the country is bracing itself for the political showdown. for the past several hours, president morsi has been meeting with key officials, including prime minister, to try and salvage his term in office. no indication he has come up with an agreement. if he fails to put an end to this political crisis, the military will intervene and chart its roadmap for the country's transition to democracy. some leaked reports say the military will dissolve the parliament, and the islam constitution and as a result many people here feel that amount to a military coup. there are great concerns among both sides that country is in fact heading towards a very dangerous showdown in coming hours. nbc news, cairo. >> thank you very much. the trial of george zimmerman will resume in just minutes and we will be right back. we've hads farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. tha
they say the military should intervene and oust president morsi. the president says that would amount it a coup on the democratic leader of the country. the country is bracing itself for the political showdown. for the past several hours, president morsi has been meeting with key officials, including prime minister, to try and salvage his term in office. no indication he has come up with an agreement. if he fails to put an end to this political crisis, the military will intervene and chart its...
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morsi says he is egypt's legitimate president. he is not stepping down, and he says he will protect his constitutional legitimacy with his life. we'll continue to follow the demonstrations in egypt throughout this hour. [ dad ] ah! lilly. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress... and she's not exactly tidy. even if she gets a stain... she'll wear it for a week straight. so i use tide to get out those week-old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. and since i'm the one who has to do the laundry... i do what any expert dad would do. i let her play sheriff. i got twenty minutes to life. you are free to go! [ male announcer ] week old stains and odors just met their match. tide and downy, better together. >>> welcome back to "hardball." love them or leave them. it's a rift within the party now that the immigration debate has made deeper, wide. >> and certainly louder. on one side you have republican senators like lindsey graham who warn of things like demographic death spirals. strategist karl rove echoed the same c
morsi says he is egypt's legitimate president. he is not stepping down, and he says he will protect his constitutional legitimacy with his life. we'll continue to follow the demonstrations in egypt throughout this hour. [ dad ] ah! lilly. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress... and she's not exactly tidy. even if she gets a stain... she'll wear it for a week straight. so i use tide to get out those week-old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. and since i'm the one who has...
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potentially by force removing president morsi. so far on the streets, we respect seeing any signs of a possible coup. no thanks, no occur fuse, just these rice offing tensions. >> from egypt to russia where ked ward snowden has reportedly requested asylum from 20 different countries but has not gotten a green light from any of them. nevertheless, there was a new twist in the case overnight amid rumors he had managed to flee russia. jim maceda with the latest from the moscow. >> edward snowden has done it again. it wasn't a bombshell leak. this time it was just a rumor that snowden had hitched a ride on bolivian president iva morales presidentialal plane where he was visiting on business. that triggered a major international air incident when france, portugal, italy and spain closed their air space reportedly forcing the pilots to circle aimlessly for about three hours before finally getting permission to land in ehenin, austria where snowden was not found to be on board. that left bow libyans on the flight and back at home stunned
potentially by force removing president morsi. so far on the streets, we respect seeing any signs of a possible coup. no thanks, no occur fuse, just these rice offing tensions. >> from egypt to russia where ked ward snowden has reportedly requested asylum from 20 different countries but has not gotten a green light from any of them. nevertheless, there was a new twist in the case overnight amid rumors he had managed to flee russia. jim maceda with the latest from the moscow. >>...
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do basically people throw morsi in front of the bus. the other big dynamic that people are missing here, mike, the people in the streets. it's one thing to come out and protest. okay. but what has the opposition in egypt been able to do? one, they can protest, two, boycott political events. can they organize? can they form an enduring political movement that stands for something that can contest an election and if they ever were to do well in an election can they govern? the opposition in egypt hasn't shown that. there's a difference between being an opposition. we know what they're against. they're against morsi. can they offer a positive force that offers an alternative. that's egypt's problem. there are guys that are governing that can't govern. the army doesn't want to get involved. >> do you have any sense of the status of the army versus the status of morsi in the eye or the minds of the people in the streets? >> much higher. >> for who? >> the army is much higher. only because of what it's not doing. the moment the army gets invo
do basically people throw morsi in front of the bus. the other big dynamic that people are missing here, mike, the people in the streets. it's one thing to come out and protest. okay. but what has the opposition in egypt been able to do? one, they can protest, two, boycott political events. can they organize? can they form an enduring political movement that stands for something that can contest an election and if they ever were to do well in an election can they govern? the opposition in egypt...
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president morsi has no intentions of doing so. that has raised the stakes for more protests in coming days. organizers of yesterday's million-man march who managed to get a million signatures on a petition for him to step down, says they will give him until tuesday to meet their demands. otherwise, they call for nationwide strikes. you can imagine there is a little tension here. as you mentioned, people are assessing the damage. at least five people have been killed. some say that number could grow in the coming hours. more importantly, the political offices of the freedom and justice party, as well as the muslim brotherhood have been attacked. not only here in cairo, but across the country. >> thank you. >>> the world's most-wanted man is holed up in moscow. and without a valid u.s. passpo passport, edward snowden is unable to travel. this as tracie potts is in washington with details. >> reporter: the e.u., france wants answers from the u.s. the director of national intelligence, saying the u.s. will respond privately to the all
president morsi has no intentions of doing so. that has raised the stakes for more protests in coming days. organizers of yesterday's million-man march who managed to get a million signatures on a petition for him to step down, says they will give him until tuesday to meet their demands. otherwise, they call for nationwide strikes. you can imagine there is a little tension here. as you mentioned, people are assessing the damage. at least five people have been killed. some say that number could...
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egyptians picked this guy, mohamed morsi. he was inaugurated a year ago yesterday. and yesterday this year, egyptians marked that one-year anniversary with the largest protests the country has seen since the revolution that toppled mubarak in the first place. over the past two days in half a dozen cities, there have been massive protests in egypt again. 16 people have died. hundreds of people have been injured. a young american who was in egypt to teach english for the summer was killed in the protests in alexandria. he was a 21-year-old college student from maryland named andrew pochter. the protests this weekend, protesters swarmed the headquarters of president morsi's political party. they destroyed the headquarters. they lit the place on fire. they looted it. the people inside the headquarters were reportedly evacuated but not before somebody fired actual live rounds into the crowd, reportedly killing eight people. a year after he took office, protesters are demanding that egyptian president mohamed morsi step down. the country to hold early new presidential ele
egyptians picked this guy, mohamed morsi. he was inaugurated a year ago yesterday. and yesterday this year, egyptians marked that one-year anniversary with the largest protests the country has seen since the revolution that toppled mubarak in the first place. over the past two days in half a dozen cities, there have been massive protests in egypt again. 16 people have died. hundreds of people have been injured. a young american who was in egypt to teach english for the summer was killed in the...
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the former president, muhammad morsi, is being investigated even though he's under the custody of the military. he's being investigated by a cairo prosecutor on charges that he defamed the judiciary. that certainly has put him on a travel bana long with eight other officials. in addition digs tho thto that, down channels with islamist ties. there's a cle that back drop is creating anxiety for democracy activists as well. >> tomorrow, friday, concern about heightened activity, heightened energy when it comes to the rejection of what has happened so far, friday being the day of prayers? >> reporter: that's correct. in fact, it's the end of the week here. it's a day where people don't go to work. friday prayers are a big gathering for communities all across the country. already the muslim brotherhood and islamist supporters are calling on followers and supporters to stage nationwide protests following friday prayers. i can assure you that many of the sermons that are going to be at the mosques, some affiliated with the muslim brotherhood are going to be fiery and rachet up the rhetoric a
the former president, muhammad morsi, is being investigated even though he's under the custody of the military. he's being investigated by a cairo prosecutor on charges that he defamed the judiciary. that certainly has put him on a travel bana long with eight other officials. in addition digs tho thto that, down channels with islamist ties. there's a cle that back drop is creating anxiety for democracy activists as well. >> tomorrow, friday, concern about heightened activity, heightened...
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yesterday, the military gave morsi 48 hours to respond to the protests. they gave him 48 hours to find a solution or the military would intervene somehow possibly to force him out. president morsi reacted with his own dedicate that the military withdraw his demands of him. he says he will not step down, the military wants him to reconcile, the political party, the muslim brotherhood, says they will not. the clock ticks down towards the ultimatum deadline tomorrow, which hits early in the morning on the east coast. the united states and canada have both closed their embassies. tahrir square in cairo is full at this hour at midnight. you may want to make some space in your schedule tomorrow to tune in on what is happening in the most populous country in the middle east. what happens there could very well change the world in a big way. stay tuned. >>> good wednesday morning. right now on "first look", the clock is ticking on egyptian president morsi to respond to an ultimatum as the country's future hangs in the balance. >>> outrage is spreading over a polic
yesterday, the military gave morsi 48 hours to respond to the protests. they gave him 48 hours to find a solution or the military would intervene somehow possibly to force him out. president morsi reacted with his own dedicate that the military withdraw his demands of him. he says he will not step down, the military wants him to reconcile, the political party, the muslim brotherhood, says they will not. the clock ticks down towards the ultimatum deadline tomorrow, which hits early in the...